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post #1 of 21 Old 04-07-2017, 06:13 PM Thread Starter
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First mower and its a cub cadet gt50 Question about potential damage

Hey so I got my first ever mower delivered today and its wrecked and missing the front bumper which I think should have been on the seat. Also came on a pallet only with some broken pieces of wood, I think it suppose to be crated. Girlfriend signed for it not knowing so I dont blame her but my question is it came with the wheel turned to one side and the wheel is in contact with the bar that steers it. Look at the photos and let me know if this is normal because I ordered a replacement unit. Note the photos are of the unit without me ripping any of the plastic lol I think it was dropped and put back on because some zip ties are broken or just hanging!




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post #2 of 21 Old 04-07-2017, 08:38 PM
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Send it back that is not a new mower. Did you buy that from a dealer or where? How did you get it from a dealer still in a crate. CC would not want one delivered that way without proper set up and assembly before it goes out the door. If it is from a dealer I would be on a phone complaining to MTD/CC. I know I couldn't buy a JD that way. Roger
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The mower is new I think it was dropped on its side during transport. I got it from HD online so they use a third party to deliver. I called Cub Cadet and they said it should come in a crate fully assembled except for the front bumper. So thats why I wanted to know if anyone else had the same mower and does their tire touch the that bar because the next one they deliver will just be dropped off again, hopefully crated and protected.
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From a quick look that is a very damaged mower. Not worth the $2600 they are asking for them. I hope your second one is better and you check throughly it before you use it. Check oil and battery fluids. Charge the battery, adjust the tire pressures, adjust all the belts and quards, and on and on. When I worked at JD in the 1970s we/I spent about an hour with each tractor before it went out the door to make sure it was right. I hope you are a good mechanic and have the tools to do what is needed. I also hope the next one ends up being a good tractor. Roger
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I had my XT2 drop shipped to my house and it was fully crated. I was there when delivered and we uncrated it in the truck, then lowered via the lift to the ground.
That was definitely dropped or something was dropped on it.

I only had to add the bumper and battery.
Make sure you grease the deck wheels also, mine came dry from shipping.
At full deflection the rod can just touch the tire edge of the steering, I see that on one side of mine. No binding issues from it. Never tried to adjust it out though it only at max deflection.
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Send it back that is not a new mower. Did you buy that from a dealer or where? How did you get it from a dealer still in a crate. CC would not want one delivered that way without proper set up and assembly before it goes out the door. If it is from a dealer I would be on a phone complaining to MTD/CC. I know I couldn't buy a JD that way. Roger
I'm assuming you sent it back. How did you make out? This is why somethings are risky when bought online. I know, I know. I'm beating a dead horse here. No offense intended and I truly hope you get it straightened out.

Both tractors I've had (JD LX172 & JD STX38) were bought used and if she who must be obeyed ever wins the lottery I'm buying another Deere from a local dealer who is less than Mr. Congeniality. I can put my face in front of his face and work things out. Besides as Mrs. Spokes100 says I love confrontation!
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Call HD tell them what happened and bring in some pics of the damage. They will make it right that I can promise.
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Make sure you grease the deck wheels also, mine came dry from shipping.
At full deflection the rod can just touch the tire edge of the steering, I see that on one side of mine. No binding issues from it. Never tried to adjust it out though it only at max deflection.
What do you mean by deck wheels? The anti scalp wheels or the wheels that turn the blades? This is my first mower so im not too familiar with some terms. Also in the manual for maintenance it says to grease all joints and pivot points. Where and what should be used to grease these joints and where are they all. So besides installing bumper, connecting battery, checking oil, checking tire pressure and leveling deck what else should be done before the first use? Also is higher octane gas better and should any additive be added during the season or only near the end of season when it will be stored away?

As for returning the unit, yes I called them back and complained. They told me I would need to reorder and pay for the new one and only when they receive the old one back would I get a refund. Boy did I lose it. Long story short they gave me an additional 15 percent off of my sale price so I made out pretty nicely... well we will see I haven't received the new mower yet. Got the mulch kit ready but at this rate my grass is really high now so might have to cut once with the stock blades then switch them after that. Thanks again everyone!
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Install those mulch blades first.
Then set tires and level the deck. When the deck is out you can get a good look at how everything is put together.
The 4 anti scalp wheels have a plastic nipple for the grease gun give them all some grease and about every 10 hours or as needed.
Turn the front wheels to the side and you will see two more grease fittings, 1 on the wheel for the axle and 1 on the steering shaft.
The deck spindles are triple sealed and do not have greas fittings.
You can set your deck lift assist tension for how easy or hard you want it to go up and down, large bolt on back of machine, see the manual.
You might pick up a filter and couple qts of oil, double check your engine manual but I remember the first change was at 10 hours.
Oil change is super easy, they even have the drain hose attached.
Keep you transmission cooling fan clean, heat is the enemy of a transmission.
Otherwise enjoy.
Let us know when the new one shows.
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Hey does anyone know if they make an aftermarket bagger for the gt50? I've read mixed reviews on it and its got a pretty steep price tag. Also are the high lift blades necessary for the bagger or will the stock blades work? Thanks!
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No one makes after market baggers until you get into things like a Cyclone Rake and those will not be cheaper. If you want a bagger to work you need high lift blades. Roger
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So my replacement mower came today and this time it did come crated and with all items on board! The factory pallet is built with ribs that let the tire sit deep in them so the unit doesnt move. So manually pushing the mower wasnt going to work. The shipper also had to put another pallet under it to move the unit (see photo). So removing that involved a couple jack stands, 2x4s and one car jack. Once the top and sides were removed I places wood blocks under each tire so when I cut the brace around it it would land on those pieces. When the frame was completely removed I then just pushed it off the blocks. I hope there wasnt an easier way lol but if not I hope this helps someone else in the future.

After that I removed a lot of air from the tires to 10 psi in the back and 14psi in the front. I then installed the front bumper and balanced the deck. Had the front about a 1/4 inch lower than the back and then balanced the side to side. I actually used a long level and placed it on the rear edge of the mower deck and lowered the deck to that and adjusted on the left side adjustment screw. Connected the battery (negative cable was pretty short and had to remove tape that held all the wires together) and filled the gas tank. I also checked the zerk fittings and they all had grease coming out of them and the joints so I didnt touch those. So did I miss anything for the initial start up? I didnt set my anti scalp wheels yet because I dont know what height I should mow at. Any suggestions?

I didnt have time to mow the grass today but I did ride around the yard for the first time. Rode for about 5 minutes and when I got off my feet were tingling numb from the vibration of the motor.... lol wonder how it will feel when I do the entire yard tomorrow.



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I am ignorant about how a Cub Cadet deck is shaped, so take this with a grain of salt. Other decks I have leveled had to be done by measuring from the floor up to the bottom of the blades. Every thing else you did sounds good. I also wonder about foot numbness due to motor vibration.
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So at first I did try measuring to the blades but was having a hard time measuring the side opposite the chute. Getting your hands and a measuring device under the deck and getting a good measurement is tough. So I took a small block and a pen and butted it up to the blade a scribed a line. Then did the same for the other side and measured the difference.

Also is it OK to adjust the deck height while the pto is engaged?
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Yes, it is difficult to measure blade height on the non-chute side with normal measuring tools. John Deere sells a plastic tool to enable a person to do it easily. Not plugging Deeres, it's just the only place I have seen this deck leveling tool for sale. I have had one for several years and used it on all types of mowers. As far as leveling the deck with the pto engaged, I don't know. But I would assume the owner manual would say not to do it.
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