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post #1 of 49 Old 04-15-2017, 12:02 AM Thread Starter
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NOS John Deere 14SE

When I had an opportunity to purchase this mower, I did some research and found great info on this forum. I ended up buying it and figured I'd post some pictures here for those who might appreciate it.

According to the serial number, the mower was made 19 years ago and it shows no signs of ever having been used - completely clean, no evidence of gas in the tank, clear oil. It looks like it was stored indoors and I'm hoping it was a heated space, which may mean that the battery is still good.

My plan is to change the oil, gas it up and use it. I've never owned a self-propelled mower before, nor a John Deere. But it was clear from the research I did before buying that it was a good machine. I look forward to using it.

If anyone has any tips or suggestions of things I should do before using it, I'd appreciate it.
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made 19 years ago! very interesting!
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That's an amazing find. I'm personally not a big John Deere fan but I'm a fan of any mower that old in that condition. What's the story behind it? How did you come by it?

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I want it!!!!!!! If only I had the cash!!!!

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Some of the best walk behinds ever produced, those things rock.

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Wow. Very cool.
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Re: NOS John Deere 14SE

It turns out my serial number research was wrong or I misremembered it, because according to the following link the machine is almost 24 years old. John Deere 14SB Serial Number Information - Lawn Mower Forums : Lawnmower Reviews, Repair, Pricing and Discussion Forum

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I wish I knew more about it. I purchased it from a localish outfit that holds online auctions. I assume that most of their stuff comes from estates that they buy, but they do take items on consignment as well. Because this item had a reserve price I assume it was probably a consignment sale. In my mind it belonged to a little old lady who passed away never having used it. But it didn't have the sort of dust on it that you would expect if it were sitting around for a couple decades, nor was it spic and span clean as you would expect it to be if the auction house cleaned it up. So unless the little old lady stored it on the shipping pallet with shrink wrap around it, I'm stumped.

Is there anything I should do prior to firing it up other than changing the oil (which may not even be necessary, but I'll do just in case)?
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Re: NOS John Deere 14SE

That is a sweet find for sure. I'm not a JD expert by no means, but I have seen a couple NOS Lawnboy mowers with self propel that have made their way back into the light of day. One of the things to check would be the grease in the transmission ( if it has grease ) Old grease has a way of drying out and getting hard.
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Did you get an owners manual with it? I just worked on one of these for a friend and found out John Deere is pretty stingy giving out information. Oh, you can BUY a service manual for a mere $150.00. I might spring for a used one on ebay if I owned a beauty like yours. It is defiantly a two person job to lift it up on the workbench. Them baby's are HEAVY!
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Good call, Unclelee - I'll see if it's relatively easy to open the transmission and check.

The mower did not come with a manual. Since self propulsion, electric start, and blade brake clutch are all new to me, I really wanted to find a manual to walk me through the basics to make sure I didn't screw anything up. But one of the things I learned here when doing my research is that JD charges for everything - and often high dollar amounts, including manuals. But I was able to find basic operating/maintenance info online for the successor model (JX__??) so looked that over.

On the other hand, I've found that having an old machine may also save a few bucks on parts - My local dealer didn't have the mulch plug and blade in stock but referred me to another dealer a couple hours away who had them as part of a package with the side discharge chute. They had more on their shelves than they wanted after all these years so they made me a pretty good deal.

Today I picked up a dethatcher attachment that's only been used once from a Craigslist seller that was a ways away but worth driving to. I guess I'm all in on John Deere at this point!
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Pretty cool stuff. This is probably the one mower I'd love to have. There's just something about them. So, since no one else has asked, what does a N.O.S. 14SE go for these days??

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So, since no one else has asked, what does a N.O.S. 14SE go for these days??
That's what I'd like to know... Since I put my old mower (20 year old push model Craftsman that I bought new and served me well) out to pasture after last season, I knew I was going to be spending money on a new one this spring. So when I saw this one pop up I took a quick look at Craftsman models because that's probably what I would have bought and concluded I'd be spending over $250 for a model with similar features (which I don't need) or even $160+ for another simple push mower. So I didn't feel too bad when I snagged this one for a little less than $300.

I tip my hat to Unclelee because the residual factory grease on the wheel zerks and the minor squeezeout from the housing it fills is like wax. So I definitely have to at least inspect the transmission to see if the grease in there is hard as well. Just eyeballing things, it doesn't look like there's anything too complicated about accessing and removing fasteners in that area of the mower, but does anyone have experience with the most efficient way to get access to the transmission? I'd like to remove as few bolts as necessary instead of systematically taking stuff apart until I have the access I need but with half the mower disassembled. (I guess it might be time for me to look at the prices of used service manuals on Ebay.)
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Do a search on John Deere 14SB. You should be able to find one. I did, only 716 pages long. Covers all models and engine manufacturers.
From what I remember, take the rear wheels off, remove both wheel adjusters and I think it pretty much falls off. Might be one or two more bolts. Can't remember.
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I've pulled the transmission, scraping off plenty of hardened grease as I removed the pinion gears and wheel adjuster assemblies. I picked up some new grease from the JD dealer in case the stuff in the case is hardened as well. If it is, I'm hoping to scrape out most of it without disassembling the whole thing and refill with fresh.

When I turn the input shaft on the top of the transmission by hand it feels like the pinion gear inside is skipping and the axle doesn't turn. Is this normal? At first I wondered whether it was evidence of hardened grease (ie, so stiff that the internals wouldn't move), but I don't think that's the case because the axle rotates fine when I spin it by hand. When I showed the JD guy he wondered whether it was because it was in neutral but we couldn't move the gearshift lever even when turning the input shaft.
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You may find this to be a good read
http://www.mytractorforum.com/155-wa.../647865?page=3

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