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Old 07-10-2006, 12:11 AM   post #1 of 29
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Default Traction - new tires or wheel weights?

I have a new FS-5500 and the 'Turf Saver' tires slip a bit too much on the steeper slopped part of the lawn. They spin when I try to go up or diagonally on some parts, and they slide when I break hard going down others. How much slope can these tractors handle going straight down or up? The book warns not to try more than 15 degrees, and mine is more than that in parts. I'd sure hate to flip this thing.

I have read in this forum that wheel weights help, but I already have my 220 lbs sitting over the back tires, so would more weight really help?

Are AG tires ok for normal lawns? Do they leave odd marks?

I see some knobby 'Turf Tamer' tires that look like they wouldn't spin as easily, but I don't see them in size 22x9.5x12

http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images...amerKnobby.jpg

This is my first lawn tractor, and although I have the age, I don't quite have the wisdom yet. I got Sears to ship me the correct rear bagger bracket last week and this weekend was my first try at using it. It ran great in all other ways, just these slipping wheels are bugging me.
Any advice?

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Old 07-10-2006, 05:40 AM   post #2 of 29
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Default Re: Traction - new tires or wheel weights?

I have no problem with the AG's on my lawn, but all lawns are diferent. Unless your yard is real soft, I would change tires. Sounds like you need more then weights.
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Default Re: Traction - new tires or wheel weights?

I agree with Paul...your conditions might warrant a new tire. I had a similar complaint and here is what worked for me.

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Default Re: Traction - new tires or wheel weights?

I have the same problem w/ my GS6500. I have a very hard packed soil in my area so ags won't be a problem. Heres a link to a on line mail order with good prices and quick delivery. I will be putting on the same tire as I have on the cub in my avatar. They are called Kenda Executioners anr are agressive.
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I have read in this forum that wheel weights help, but I already have my 220 lbs sitting over the back tires, so would more weight really help?
Yes, more weight will help. Your 220 pounds is in the seat and is distributed throughout the frame. Therefore, not all of that weight is directly applied to the rear wheels. Perhaps only 60% of your 220 pounds is applied to rear wheel traction. Rear wheel weights would help.

AG tires shouldn't hurt you lawn or leave any appreciable footprint in the grass as long as you don't run them when the lawn is soggy or very soft. I usually run AGs on my GT5000 with wheel weights and they don't hurt my lawn when I am operating the tractor on it. Right now I'm running Turf Savers with chains as I haven't changed them out yet from snow plowing and even that combination doesn't leave an imprint on the lawn.

I think your best bet would be AGs with wheel weights. That combination would probably eliminate any traction issues you have.
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Hey draddogs, could you post the link again as it doesn't appear to have been included in your earlier post!!Thanks
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http://www.4atvtires.com/atvTires/sh...TV_MUD_TIRES_2

Heres the link. Sorry about not getting it in. Wait for it to load then in the upper left click on mud tires.

I liked the Kenda Executioner in 6 ply because of the rim gaurd design size I went with is 25x10.00-12
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I've had a lot of luck towing with wheel weights on my GT 6000. Even in sandy gravel, actually the difference was night and day. I tried towing w/o wheel weights and thought I wouldn't be able to use the tractor in that application. I added wheel weights and a modified belly weight because the deck was off and no problems since. Hope this helps

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I use the Ag style tires on my GT5000, and I tend to have some pretty wet areas in the spring. I get no marring of the ground. I have the wheel weights as well, but I rarely put those on, save for the winter months and if I'm going to plow my garden, and sometimes I don't even use them to plow.
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Are your rollers (front and side of deck) set too low? If so they could be taking up some of the weight that is needed for traction. Just a thought.
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Default Re: Traction - new tires or wheel weights?

i have a pair of 10 x 23 on 12 inch 5 lugs that have to go basically new
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I had traction issues with my turf-saver tires too, especially when the treads loaded up with damp soil or grass, but I've been extremely pleased with my GT5000 since I changed over to Carlisle SuperLug AGs and added winter grade windshield-wiper fluid to the rear tires. I also mounted the front tires with the chevrons pointed back toward the driver. Effort turning was significantly reduced and traction was improved beyond belief. Made all the difference. I've not had any problems with leaving tracks in the yard either.
I ordered mine from a local shop that does my tire and mechanic work. May have cost a few dollars more but I like to spend close to home to build relationships and help the little guys stay in business.

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Jimbo, I agree on spending money on the little guy near home but I wont spemd the money there if its way over priced or if their attitude is we are the ony one around. I try to get my parts from those met here and other forums I respond to. I find that those whom are in these forums usually have a lot better knowledge than those who are supposed to be the pros. JMO
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Tried the Super Lug tires from Carlisle, the smallest size they make is to big for the FS5500, well actually it's the 48" deck that's the issue.

I didn't get them mounted, just took them home and lined them up to where they would be if mounted and although they cleared the fenders they would rub against the rear wheel brackets of the 48" deck. May have had to get other wheels to mount them to also, not sure.

So I took them back and now will try wheel weights.

Original tire size is 22x9.5-12
smallest super lug 23x10-12

The bigger GS6500 uses 23x10.5 according to the brochure. Maybe I should upgrade?

Here are some pix. I know the tires are backwards, but I was just size testing without them mounted.

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John from the looks of your pics iI would say you have to reverse your rims as it looks like the tire is on backwards.
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