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post #1 of 22 Old 05-17-2017, 07:07 PM Thread Starter
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John Deere 140 vs. 208

My husband and I are considering getting either a JD 140 (from the early 1970s) or a JD 208 (1980s - unsure exact year on either one). They are the same exact price, and both come with a snow blower and snow blade. What are the main differences between the two? What things do we need to consider? We're totally new to the world of riding lawn mowers. Additional info about us: we just bought a house with 5 acres in northern Montana. Most of the land is pasture, but we do have a fairly large lawn and driveway which we'll need to plow in the winters. (We live in northern Montana.) Thanks in advance!
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First off welcome to MTF! Ok now the difference between the 140 and 208. The 140 has hydraulics and the 208's usually don't. The 140 came in two variants the H1 and the H3 the H1 only has one hydraulic spool where as the h3 has 3 spools. With only one spool you would have hydraulic lift for the mowing deck and either the snow plow or blower. But with the h3 you can lift the mowing deck separate of the snow plow if you have them both on. You also gain the ability of power angle with the snow plow. There are a few other features but they vary by year and this is one of the main differences between the two variants of the 140. A few other differences between the 140 and the 208 are in the below list.

#1 horse power the 140 has 14hp usually and the 208 has 8hp.
#2 Transmission the 140 is hydrostatic and the 208 is gear drive.
#3 Implement lift the 140 has hydraulics lift and the 208 is manual usually. Hydraulic lift makes a big difference running a snow blower or snow plow its a lot less fatigue on the arm.

You can also get either a sleeve hitch or 3pt hitch for the 140 for running rear implements like plows scraper blades disc's etc. But the 208 can only support sleeve hitch.

The 208 is kind of a rare tractor but the 140 is still worth more. The 140 is defiantly a sought after and collectible tractor to some its the iconic John Deere garden tractor. Its the grandfather of the slightly newer John Deere 318 which is the most popular lawn and garden tractor ever built.

If I where in your shoes I would chose the 140 its far more tractor for the money.

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Re: John Deere 140 vs. 208

What a wealth of information! Thank you! Since we do have about four acres of pasture (which we might eventually want to plow, work with a harrow, or something else - who knows), I can see that the 140 could potentially do a little more work for us Other than what variant it is (H1 vs. H3), are there any questions I should be sure to ask the seller about the 140? So far, he has just said that the 140 "need some TLC", but that he will be giving it TLC in the next few days, including powder-coating the deck. (And any questions I should ask about the 208, which he says is "in nice condition."

My husband will be home soon, and we'll be discussing this tonight. I'll let you know if I have more questions. Thanks again for all the info!
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No question the 140. For all of the above reasons and it has one of the best hydrostatic systems ever made the Sunstrand.

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What a wealth of information! Thank you! Since we do have about four acres of pasture (which we might eventually want to plow, work with a harrow, or something else - who knows), I can see that the 140 could potentially do a little more work for us Other than what variant it is (H1 vs. H3), are there any questions I should be sure to ask the seller about the 140? So far, he has just said that the 140 "need some TLC", but that he will be giving it TLC in the next few days, including powder-coating the deck. (And any questions I should ask about the 208, which he says is "in nice condition."

My husband will be home soon, and we'll be discussing this tonight. I'll let you know if I have more questions. Thanks again for all the info!
If you want to do any garden work defiantly go with the 140. As far as questions about the 140 just find out what year it is that will help us determine what features it has or doesn't have. as far as the 208 not really just make sure both tractors run good or you have the ability to fix them. These older tractors do like TLC but both of these models are relatively easy to work on. They're defiantly a lot more attachments for the 140 compared to the 208 available. Everything from Front End Loaders to Backhoes, tillers, planters, cultivators, box blades, disc's, Bottom plows, Augers, trenchers, mid mount grader blades.

But the 208 does have a decent amount of attachments available and it is still a garden tractor so it can do garden work you can get a plow or disc for it or a small box blade or a cultivator, mid mount grader blade, as well as a tiller and I'm sure I'm forgetting some. But keep in mind a some of these attachment are hard to come by.

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Re: John Deere 140 vs. 208

I agree, the 140. Hydrostatic drive means that you have infinite speed control forwards and backwards using one hand lever, no gear shifting. With the 208 you will have to shift gears to change speeds/direction. This gets real old when doing a task such as snow removal.

Hydraulic lift of attachments is much easier than manual lift too.

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Re: John Deere 140 vs. 208

Thanks, everyone, for your help! Deere 332, we don't know how to work on these, but we could learn. More likely, though, we would try to find someone locally who could do any work or repairs that we might eventually need. What should we expect to pay for a 140 that "needs TLC", but the "TLC" is supposedly being done before sale?
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Thanks, everyone, for your help! Deere 332, we don't know how to work on these, but we could learn. More likely, though, we would try to find someone locally who could do any work or repairs that we might eventually need. What should we expect to pay for a 140 that "needs TLC", but the "TLC" is supposedly being done before sale?
They're pretty simple to work on just a basic gas engine and basic hydraulic system if you need any help you have us guys on here. But don't take either tractor to the dealer for anything you will spend a fortune besides like I said they aren't all that complex and are easy to learn on.

As far as price its all over the board a running 140 h3 would be anywhere somewhere between $600-1300 depending on location and condition and those attachments are worth a good bit more if you have other the blower and snow plow thats easily another $700-1,000 depending on condition. A H1 140 is worth a bit less then the H3 I see them sell between $350-700 depending on condition sometimes less sometimes more.

You're best investment will be to get a operators manual and service manual and learn as much as you can about the tractors and how to work on them. It'll be well worth the time and money in the long run. Also get a set of Metric and Standard wrenches and ratchet and sockets sets as well as maybe a breaker bar and a few other basic tools like screw drivers maybe even a volt meter if you don't have any of these this will allow you to fix any basic issues you might have with the tractor yourself.

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Thanks, everyone, for your help! Deere 332, we don't know how to work on these, but we could learn. More likely, though, we would try to find someone locally who could do any work or repairs that we might eventually need. What should we expect to pay for a 140 that "needs TLC", but the "TLC" is supposedly being done before sale?
In 2006 I Payed $1,000 for a 140H3 thru evil-bay(ebay) should have gone for $750. I Took My 140 In to my JD dealer in April 2016 Got In Back In early fall Last Year. I brought it In for New Transmission seals & Gaskets. and told them They could work On it when they Got to as I have Other Tractors Finally I told them to do a Mechanical rebuild On the whole Tractors That ended Up being $3,200 with Labor(mind You it would Have been even More expensive But they took several thousand off In Labor) Today I would say anywhere Between $600 to $700 Maybe More Maybe Less depending on condition. While Most say to go with a 43 Year Plus Garden tractor. I think You may want to consider a Late Used Model for The Montana winter From Places like this Green Power or this Riding Mowers|Lawn Mowers|John Deere|Kubota|Cub Cadet Roeder Outdoor Power Both ship at very reasonable Prices You could get 2010 X720 for about $6,250 with a 62inch deck.(new Blade or Blower add between $1,000 for Blade & front Hitch or $3,500 for Blower & Front Hitch) and Used You can get Both for Under $1000 for Blade & Hitch and Maybe the same for a Blower or Thrower & Hitch I bought a 2012 X748 Diesel, All Wheel drive from them for about $10,200 with 140Hours Back In 2014 still had 2 Years of warranty left which just ran out this last December.

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425
445
455
X465
X475
X485
X495
X575
X585
X595
X700
X710
X720
X728
X729
X730
X738
X739
X740
X744
X748
X749
X750
X754
X758
They would be Better suited for You Property Than a 140 or a 208 and You can find Many of those Models Listed above Under $4,500 or even Lower Might find a early JD 425 for about $3,000. Don't get Me Both the 140 & the 208 are very capable Machines But for 5 acres I would suggest Looking for something Newer Than 40 year Old Machines The 208 was Only Made In 1977 & 1978 The Last 140 was made in 1974 and Keep In Mind some Parts are No Longer available for the 140 there either Limited to dealer stock or Used. If the 140 is Just Going to be a stop gap machine Until You find something newer Or Larger. It will Probably be all right. But You will get to Know it's Limitations & its strengths Pretty quick In the winter Months especially if You get a lot of snow and don't keep Up On it.

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Re: John Deere 140 vs. 208

well....you have all the info already now...so I'll just vote

140 for me!
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I just heard back from the seller. He *thinks* the 140 is a 1970 model, and it's H1 type. The 208 is 1982. Thoughts? He said the JD 208 is in "really nice condition, including the 38" deck and blade", and the JD 140 is "not quite as nice" and has a 42" deck, blade, and blower. He is going to send pictures. I think the highest priority for us is how mechanically sound they are, and usability for mowing and snow removal. It's a bonus if we could potentially pull a harrow or work out pasture with it. (But we literally moved in 2 weeks ago, and I have no idea what our needs will eventually be.) And it's an extra-bonous if they're collectible. But, really, for now we just need a good mower & snow removal machine.
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I just heard back from the seller. He *thinks* the 140 is a 1970 model, and it's H1 type. The 208 is 1982. Thoughts? He said the JD 208 is in "really nice condition, including the 38" deck and blade", and the JD 140 is "not quite as nice" and has a 42" deck, blade, and blower. He is going to send pictures. I think the highest priority for us is how mechanically sound they are, and usability for mowing and snow removal. It's a bonus if we could potentially pull a harrow or work out pasture with it. (But we literally moved in 2 weeks ago, and I have no idea what our needs will eventually be.) And it's an extra-bonous if they're collectible. But, really, for now we just need a good mower & snow removal machine.


Do you have a budget? I don't recall reading one on the thread anywhere. As stated above it might behoove you to spend a little more and get a slightly newer machine. Even a JD 318/316 would suit your needs... the problem with getting a machine that old, or any machine that you're going to put through its paces are things ARE going to break, and that's part of the game.

Tractors made in the 60s and 70s still have parts available but some are harder to come by for these little machines.

Have you considered anything in the size of a Massey Harris Pony, Farmall Cub, Allis Chalmers C? You would have a little bit of a harder time running a blower on one of these, but a blade, belly mower, and other pull behind attachments are not out of the question. I hate to veer off the topic of JD a little but I'm trying to think of a machine that I feel would suit me if I were in your shoes.

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You would be wise to do a lot more L&G tractor research.
Sergeant covered it very well.
PACubCadet's budjet question is a good one.
If you're pretty serious about either of those two tractors maybe you
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not as much as an H-3 & last year for any JD 140 new was 1974.
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Regarding price/budget, we are needing to spend at or below $1500. That is what led us to these two tractors. There is a JD dealership in town (with branches & inventory from multiple locations around the state), and the only used tractors in our price-range are not suitable (i.e. without snow removal capabilities). They are "keeping us in mind" if something comes in on a trade, but they made it clear that they have other customers who have asked them to notify them of tractors in the same price-range. The only other options I'm seeing are on Craigslist, and they are Crafstman or Cub Cadet, and I'm not sure if those can do snow removal. (If they do, they don't come with them, and that'd be another expense.)
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Regarding price/budget, we are needing to spend at or below $1500. That is what led us to these two tractors. There is a JD dealership in town (with branches & inventory from multiple locations around the state), and the only used tractors in our price-range are not suitable (i.e. without snow removal capabilities). They are "keeping us in mind" if something comes in on a trade, but they made it clear that they have other customers who have asked them to notify them of tractors in the same price-range. The only other options I'm seeing are on Craigslist, and they are Crafstman or Cub Cadet, and I'm not sure if those can do snow removal. (If they do, they don't come with them, and that'd be another expense.)


I would look at Farmall Cubs, Massey Harris Pony, or an Allis Chalmers C as I said...

Both Craftsman and Cub Cadets could be used the same as the JD, depending on model.

$1500 is a decent budget for a used garden tractor with snow removal capabilities and a mower deck.

I would research a little more on what would suit your needs. As I said you are more then likely going to need to put some work into whatever you buy.

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