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455 + box blade/scraper -- dealer says don't do it?

Deere 455 w/ Ruegg Cat 1 limited hitch

I have some work in my yard where I think a box blade would be the answer. I've been calling around local dealers and farm equipment suppliers looking to see what 48" options are available.

One gentleman said that he's owned a 455 before and that I might be setting myself up for disappointment. I thought people here had used them fine though, but now I am second-guessing what I thought I've seen.

The Frontier BB5048L is in the $750 range. Waiting for callbacks on the other options (Worksaver), and to look at other ones available.

Another dealer told me I would be disappointed too -- that I should use a tiller or pulverizer, and a bucket loader. :/

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Re: 455 + box blade/scraper -- dealer says don't do it?

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Deere 455 w/ Ruegg Cat 1 limited hitch

I have some work in my yard where I think a box blade would be the answer. I've been calling around local dealers and farm equipment suppliers looking to see what 48" options are available.

One gentleman said that he's owned a 455 before and that I might be setting myself up for disappointment. I thought people here had used them fine though, but now I am second-guessing what I thought I've seen.

The Frontier BB5048L is in the $750 range. Waiting for callbacks on the other options (Worksaver), and to look at other ones available.
You will be more than fine the worst thing you could do is spin the tires due to lack of traction which shouldn't be a problem if ballast it properly. I would recommend a set or two of wheel weights or maybe liquid ballast in the rear tires or a combination of both. These tractors can handle that size box blade easily they where designed to do this kind of work.

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Re: 455 + box blade/scraper -- dealer says don't do it?

What type of yard work are you wanting to do and what type of soil do you have?

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What type of yard work are you wanting to do and what type of soil do you have?
Key questions! My 455 will pull a 4 footer to move loose dirt/gravel/etc. But with the rippers down it will not
effectively dig into heavy sodded or clay areas.

OTOH, I have a little 36" Gannon, originally sold by Sears with the weird 'almost 3 pt'. I modded it for use on a
Cat 0 hitch. With it rolled into ripping position, and with multiple passes, I can loosen most anything. I really wish that was a 42 or 48" version but they are hard to find.

One other observation: tires and weight can make a HUGE difference. I now have 27x12-12 ATV tires on the 455. With 70 lbs of weights on the wheels, it works really well. With the original turfs, it was almost useless as a dirt mover.
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Re: 455 + box blade/scraper -- dealer says don't do it?

If u have a tractor supply or a farm type store nearby. They carry 4ft boxes designed for the limited cat 1. Also it could be cheaper then the frontier box. I bought mine a king kutter xb 4ft box blade on sale for $200 but normall listed for over $400. I use on Deere 400 with cat 0 hitch just fine.



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If u have a tractor supply or a farm type store nearby. They carry 4ft boxes designed for the limited cat 1. Also it could be cheaper then the frontier box. I bought mine a king kutter xb 4ft box blade on sale for $200 but normall listed for over $400. I use on Deere 400 with cat 0 hitch just fine.


How did you get that quick hitch to work on your Cat 0 3pt?

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Re: 455 + box blade/scraper -- dealer says don't do it?

I don't have a box blade but I do have a 5ft 3pt blade for the 445. Handles it wonderfully. I do not have loaded tires and did not add wheel weights and only running turfs. I use the blade to grade the gravel drive in the spring, spread new loads of gravel, and some light dirt work. I have bigger equipment if I really need to tear things up haha.

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How did you get that quick hitch to work on your Cat 0 3pt?
Its a harbor freight cat 1 quick hitch that narrowed up 6" out of the width. I moved the top link down to front of the hitch

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Its a harbor freight cat 1 quick hitch that narrowed up 6" out of the width. I moved the top link down to front of the hitch
Oh ok I thought it looked narrower.

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What type of yard work are you wanting to do and what type of soil do you have?
That's a good question, I probably should have addressed. It's "normal" soil. Not compacted, not sandy.
There is a pointless hump/swale that is perpendicular to a drainage area I'm looking to knock the hump into the hole.
I was thinking of using my ripper/subsoiler to break up the ground and the box blade to drag it over.

I'll get a picture when I get home.

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Not sure if the pic helps, the hump running down the middle there. Want to blend that whole area straight across as it goes down the hill into that pit area behind it. Pending Township approval. The hump and valley serve no purpose, since the water all runs to the same area, and the yard is completely unusable with the massive hump/valley there.
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Not sure if the pic helps, the hump running
It may do it but you'll have to do something about the grass I'm not sure if it will pull all of the scarifies through the grass or not you might could just use a few of the scarifiers and not pull with all of them. Also did you notice what the dog is doing in the background!

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Re: 455 + box blade/scraper -- dealer says don't do it?

Not sure what kind of tree that is, but if the roots are near the surface, they'll stop you dead in your tracks. If you hit one, you could try and cut it with an axe, wrap a chain around it, and pull it out of the ground. I think other than that, you should be able to get it done no problem. I can drag my heavy hitch ripper up to the hilt through my rocky clay hardpan without too much issue. It'll pull up some pretty big rocks, but I have all kinds of ballast. The front blade for a 445 is 54 inches, and can be locked out for dirt work, and I've used mine to good effect, so I don't see why a 4' box would be so bad. The loader bucket is also 4' and designed for dirt work, so I think you're safe.

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Re: 455 + box blade/scraper -- dealer says don't do it?

Looks like that swale prevents the water from creating little 'rivlets' or hillside erosion down the hill when it rains.. If it were me I'd knock the high hill side down a bit but still leave some of the swale intact to prevent the direct flow of all the water.. Changing your property's landscape can have devastating results if not done correctly..

My neighbor didn't like the way the land was laid out when he moved in and did his own 'solution'... The next spring water was coming through his foundation and into his basement.. Then the real work began! He put a lot of work into it and now everything works & works better.. But it was after A LOT of time and effort!

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