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Experience with Firestone Turf/Pulling Tires?

I'm looking at options for replacing the aging 26-12-12 turf tires on my 400 with loader. I'm not sure I want to go all the way to HDAP. I noticed these Firestone Turf tires advertised as pulling tires and have an interesting tread pattern. Anybody have any experience with these? Jay
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I've been happy with the Carlisle Multi Trac CS turfs and a set of 2-link chains for my loader MF1655 for 22 years of service. The same tires on my SCUT TLB don't wear chains, but I do have a set available.

Sixty percent of the hours on the clocks of both tractors is at subfreezing temperatures. Those Firestones don't have the sipes necessary for best traction on hard packed snow. They may be good on dirt, though.

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You maybe the first.I like the wider spacing.

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Pulling tires are sold "uncut", and the buyer is expected to cut the tread the way he/she thinks will work best on whatever surface they usually pull on. I'm not sure how those would be left uncut. Looks sort of like a turf tire with taller tread. I would think HDAP or Ags would be better in dirt, but ags would get tough on the lawn with a tractor as heavy as yours, and HDAP are usually 2 ply, so they aren't all that stable for loader work.

If you buy them, make sure you report how they work. I've never seen a set in person.

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Dad had a craftsman with what looks to me those exact tires. My opinion is that they are worthless, BUT part of the worthlessness may have been the craftsman haha. That thing had a tough time driving on slick grass (dew in the mornings) and on grassy inclines even when dry. The rubber just seemed to be way to hard of compound.

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Re: Experience with Firestone Turf/Pulling Tires?

I don't care for the turf tires on my 455. I am changing over to a set of bar tires soon. Anyone know where the best pricing is on bar tires?
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Dad had a craftsman with what looks to me those exact tires. My opinion is that they are worthless, BUT part of the worthlessness may have been the craftsman haha. That thing had a tough time driving on slick grass (dew in the mornings) and on grassy inclines even when dry. The rubber just seemed to be way to hard of compound.
The big part of the problem is lack of weight coupled with high flotation tires.

Aggressive tires reduce the problem with fewer points of contact with the ground. That doesn't really cure the problem, but it does make it something that can be lived with.

Optional methods of reducing the problem are narrower tires and more weight. LT's from 50 years ago did not have the same problems with slippage, but they usually had narrower tires and weighed several dozen pounds more than the current crop.

A 375 lb NFL tackle is not going to have the same traction problems with his LT as his 105 lb daughter.

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I don't care for the turf tires on my 455. I am changing over to a set of bar tires soon. Anyone know where the best pricing is on bar tires?
Miller Tire is an advertiser on this site m. e. MILLER tire I bought my V61 for the x720 here. Great service and fast shippping. They are in NW Ohio.

Some use Summit Racing https://www.summitracing.com/ Summit has a warehouse in Akron, OH (I think). I believe they can ship from several locations or you go to the store.

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The big part of the problem is lack of weight coupled with high flotation tires.

Aggressive tires reduce the problem with fewer points of contact with the ground. That doesn't really cure the problem, but it does make it something that can be lived with.

Optional methods of reducing the problem are narrower tires and more weight. LT's from 50 years ago did not have the same problems with slippage, but they usually had narrower tires and weighed several dozen pounds more than the current crop.

A 375 lb NFL tackle is not going to have the same traction problems with his LT as his 105 lb daughter.
I understand what your saying but Dad isn't exactly little. He's probably pushing 285 ish

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I understand what your saying but Dad isn't exactly little. He's probably pushing 285 ish
All things are relative. The load per inch of tread width on my GT can exceed 100 lb, depending on ballast configuration, and I can spin the chained rear wheels at my discretion on compacted earth, and dig a pair of 12" wide holes in the process.

Your dad's Craftsman has a load of about 30 lb per inch of tread width with him in the seat and no chains on the tires.

That's another option, install 2-link tire chains. Cheaper than a new set of tires that may or may not work better than the turfs.

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All things are relative. The load per inch of tread width on my GT can exceed 100 lb, depending on ballast configuration, and I can spin the chained rear wheels at my discretion on compacted earth, and dig a pair of 12" wide holes in the process.

Your dad's Craftsman has a load of about 30 lb per inch of tread width with him in the seat and no chains on the tires.

That's another option, install 2-link tire chains. Cheaper than a new set of tires that may or may not work better than the turfs.
Eh, he sold it to a guy who lives in town and bought a Deere a year or so ago. He's much happier now haha.

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