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post #1 of 14 Old 04-19-2017, 09:21 PM Thread Starter
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My New 1975 210

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First problem I bought my 210 knowing it had carb issues. But I'm not afraid of tackling anything, because I wanted something old. When I picked it up it ran but only on full choke. Previous owner thought it needed a new carb or fuel pump. So today I put some gas in it and was going to drive it around a bit, it died 20 feet out of the garage. It will start after sitting for a minute then die again So I pushed it back in and took the sides and hood off and started checking things out. The fuel pump seems to be working fine good flow when cranking. Removed the carburetor the bowl had lots of dirt in the bowl so I decided a diss assembly and full cleaning was in order. Here comes the issue when removing the throttle plate one of the little brass screws broke off in the throttle shaft. Part of it is still sticking out the back of the shaft preventing the shaft from coming out. I don't know how to remove this broken screw. I tried drilling it but the drill bit wanders to the side of the hole. I could maybe just cut the shaft but it it replaceable? Should I just order a new carb ? I'm not sure what to do now until I get the throttle shaft removed.
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If you think you can drill the screw out after removing the shaft, you can try filing the end nub (of the broken screw) off with a jewler's file, rotating the shaft to aid in getting it flush.

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post #3 of 14 Old 04-20-2017, 08:49 AM Thread Starter
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I'm don't think I can file it enough as the shaft will not turn lol the way around. I think I may be able to get it with some emery cloth. Going to try that when I get home from work.
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How much throttle shaft play is acceptable ?
I can move it a very little bit. It's barely perceptible but there is movement
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I now see that somehow I started this thread in the wrong forum
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I now see that somehow I started this thread in the wrong forum
You're in the right place now. And congrats on your new 210!



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Thank you tracktortag
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Well I was able to sand the broken screw down with some emery cloth. Now I just have to drill out the remainder of the screw. Now to find new screws. Going to rebuild this carb and see how it works. Hopefully better than before!
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Well I was able to sand the broken screw down with some emery cloth. Now I just have to drill out the remainder of the screw. Now to find new screws. Going to rebuild this carb and see how it works. Hopefully better than before!
Good to hear that you were able to get it apart. I hadn't actually noticed what section you had originally posted in, was just browsing different threads at the time.

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I found new throttle plate screws going to finish cleaning the carb and reassemble after work today. What is the best wat to secure the throttle plate screws ? Also the tip of the high speed needle is bent. I can straighten it but will this be an issue ?
I haven't received my carb rebuild kit yet so in going to try this out as is. If I still have issues I may just order a new carb. Isavetractors.com has a new carb for $60. What are your experiences with this carb ?
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Reassembled the carb and put it on adjusted it. The tractor runs great. I mowed the front yard tonight. It smokes a very little bit under a load but it is strong no weird noises. The steering is very sloppy in the gear box the tie rod ends are tight. And the manual lift will not lock in the up position.
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I'm a bit late to the party, but there is a throttle rebuild kit available from Deere. It has bushings, new throttle butterfly and shaft. It's made to replace the moving carb parts that eventually wear and allow air past the throttle plate. I need to order one for my 214's carb.

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I'm a bit late to the party, but there is a throttle rebuild kit available from Deere. It has bushings, new throttle butterfly and shaft. It's made to replace the moving carb parts that eventually wear and allow air past the throttle plate. I need to order one for my 214's carb.
Ok thanks
my local dealer couldn't even get a carb so I won't hold my breath. Maybe I should try a different store next time I call I have 2 dealers within 10 miles of my house but they are both owned by the same corporation.

When I went to look at it I didn't think it ran at all. The previous owner who was the original owner told my that it needed a new carb and fuel pump. It would run but barely and on full choke. I started pulling it apart as soon as I got it home. The air filter is filthy dirty no gasket between filter plate and carb homemade gasket between carb and engine and the bowl was full of crud and dirt. No wonder it wouldn't run. I have it running great now for the cost of a couple cans of carb cleaner.
I don't know why I didn't get one of these old gems years ago I'm hooked
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I found new throttle plate screws going to finish cleaning the carb and reassemble after work today. What is the best wat to secure the throttle plate screws ? Also the tip of the high speed needle is bent. I can straighten it but will this be an issue ?
I haven't received my carb rebuild kit yet so in going to try this out as is. If I still have issues I may just order a new carb. Isavetractors.com has a new carb for $60. What are your experiences with this carb ?
Dan
The threads on the screws where they stick out the other side of the throttle plate are frequently deformed at assembly by the factory so they can't back out and get sucked into the engine. Usually you don't remove them unless you're going to replace the shaft and the plate due to wear as was previously mentioned. I've never used thread locking compounds because I believed the heat and vibration would loosen them up. Crush the threads as best you can and hope for the best. Never had a screw come loose personally.

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